The 9 lug Wby bolt is the strongest in the industry. The most I was use to was my .300 Win Mag. Shoots … As a rule of thumb, when it comes to hunting, muzzle energy is what many hunters … Say hello to the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. The performance difference is only a little, but almost across the board it is biased in favor of the Weatherby. I load for one of the 300 WM's and it shoots the 180g b-tip into 1/2"-3/4" at 3150fps. Discussion Starter • #1 • Sep 26, 2009. 1 of 3 Go to page. I have seen a lot of guns with a 2" difference between a cold barrel shot and the next 2 bullets. My 7 mm Weatherby Ultra Lite likes 175 gr. When doing load work for my WSM, I worked up for the 210 Berger using RL17 and max'd @ 2935 which is within 200 fps of what I could push the 210's in my 300 RUM using Retumbo. The Weatherby and ultra mag ballistics are definitely superior to the .300 win mag, but … Mag. and 416 Rem. It has to be because of the high pressures generated by the ammunition. AA is the only one that calls out the angle in any of the Weatherby prints, and they don't do it with the .300. Where the .300 RUM earns its salt is with ultra-heavy for caliber bullets: 200 grains and up. Mag., 7mm Rem. As stated the RUM has the most versatility. Its very forgiving with bullet type, and barrel temperature. I can completely outshoot the Ultramag with the Wby from a benchrest at 100 yds. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. However, I don't care for the weight of the rifles I need them in for me to handle the recoil. Thecase is a rimless bottleneck with a large rifle magnum primer. Mag., 8mm Rem. My best 3 shot group with the 300 Wby at 100 yards is 1/2" and is always under 1 ". You are using an out of date browser. Every Remington I have shot and loaded for did under 1 inch easily at 100 yards with very very little load developing. The Ultra Mag is faster and also has a 26" tube. I just looked at the case drawings in the Hogdon, Speer, AA, and Hornaday manuals. With my pet loads, it has shot in the .1's at 100 yards many upon many of times. Fact is, any of them will work fine out to 700 yards. So a .300 Weatherby Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 4070 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .338 Lapua Magnum round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 4830 pounds over the same one foot distance. Just like with any gun you have to find a bullet that shoots well on your gun. you have a bad set of drawings. 29 Posts . It remains the most popular Weatherby cartridge and the flagship of the … Had my choice when I ordered a custom rifle a few years back and debated for a long time the choice. If you trying to find special discount you'll need to searching when special time come or holidays. The .300 Win Mag might be inferior in performance and power to the .300 Weatherby Magnum and Remington Ultra Magnum, but it is still certainly capable of bringing down elk, moose, bear, and bighorn sheep. Yes the cost of the rifle and shells is high but worth it if you want the best in performance. There aren't any Ultramag guarantees like that. Thread starter ART_SKYD; Start date May 28, 2019; 1; 2; 3; Next. Just food for thought. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. The head space issue has been debated forever. I'm smart enough to know that 1 observation doesn't mean its an average. You must log in or register to reply here. I was all ready to buy a new rifle in 300 win mag, but after reading up on the issue of the inherent accuracy flaws from a belted magnum, I'm wondering if the 300 RUM might have better (or easier) potential to be … IME, the neck is the vertical portion. As illustrated in the chart,.300 Weatherby Magnum rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3230 feet per second (fps) while.300 Winchester Magnum rounds travel at a velocity of 3030 fps. Although the case design of the Weatherby was entirely different from the .300 H&H, enabling head spacing at the shoulder, Weatherby retained the belt at the case head, resulting in a very successful marketing ploy. I can stand the recoil of the weatherby without a brake, but the ultra was just a bit too much. Mag. I bought the gun used from an older guy who gave up varminting. Bulk Ammunition on sale, including 300 Weatherby Mag Rifle Rounds. With handloads or genuine Weatherby ammo, it runs neck and neck with the .300 Ultra Mag, but burns less powder and produces less recoil. If yer working off a budget, start doing some research on costs including the rifles themselves as well as cost to reload. Yah yah, accuracy guarantee so what? I have a Rem. I have one on my .338 Rem Ultra Mag and it is very pleasant to shoot. For example, factory loads dispense super-aerodynamic 210 grain projectiles at around 2920 fps. You say no more then 700 yards, but if a big one steps out at 800 I am willing to bet you're trigger finger is going to be itching for him. You get what you pay for. Historically, Weatherby claimed that this is the most powerful .30 caliber magnum rifle commercially available, but the recently introduced .300 RUM and Weatherby’s own .30-378 Weatherby Magnum are now more powerful. Therefore I don't hunt them. Roy Weatherby began experimenting with the full-length Holland & Holland case in the 1940s, and he actually had a 6.5mm cartridge, but it would be 2016 until any Weatherby … With this kind of performance from all the Remingtons I've seen and shot, I dont see any reason why to spend all that extra money on a Weatherby. This case is … Beyond 300 they start to shine but there are 7 mm's with their higher BC bullets that will out perform either. One could say, the .300 Weatherby was 50 years ahead of its time as it has only been recently that suitable optics and … I also own a .222 Rem in an older 700 ADL. That was about my upper limit. Indeed within 300 yards an '06 will generally work just as well as the two big boys. Maybe true, but he's only wanting a 700 yard gun. With brake 6or 7 rnds in a half hour is about all I can take.Might sale it for right price!!! May 28, 2019 #1 ART_SKYD New member. 1; 2; 3; Next. This time, brothers Evan and Jerry bring out the big guns. It reaches 3,250 fps with a 180-grain bullet and a 26-inch barrel. I opted to go for the laminated version to help soak up the recoil of the 300 RUM. Who really needs one? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Its not pretty. and 13% more capacity than the.300 Weatherby Mag. The ballistic performances based offfive grain types for velocity are 3,456 ft/s (150 gr), 3,326 ft/s (168 gr), 3,… 300 Ultra Mag vs 300 Win Mag The.300 Ultra Mag can fire the same weight bullet approximately 200-300fps faster than the.300 Win Mag. Hey I have a keeper,Rem 700 sporter weight in 300 RUM.180 gr nosler gold partion in front of 97.5 H1000 gives me 3367FPS and 7/8" 5 shot 100 yds .Vias muzzel Brake,sounds like atom bomb.BBL very hot after just three rnds.But who cares!!! Plus, it's got more panache than … The rifle will be a JP Sauer, Weatherby, or Sako. This is 4th year hunting with my ultralight, it has been spot on evertime it’s been called upon. My best 3 shot group with the 300 Wby at 100 yards is 1/2" and is always under 1 ". Thread starter bvolcic; Start date Oct 30, 2010; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . You may also want to consider some of the the short mags. Joined May 21, 2008 Messages 6,194 Location South of Canada and North of Wyoming. Virtually all Weatherby cases are in the 45 degree range. Do a search for Remington quality problems. I would also go with the Weatherby. But the .300 is close enough to the 7mm to be considered similar. With the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum being introduced in 1999. Might help shape yer decision. Go. Rated 5 out of 5. The Weatherby was first introduced in 1944, and the .300 Winchester Magnum was introduced in 1963. Hornady .300 PRC (left) and .300 RUM.300 Remington Ultra Mag vs. Hornady .300 PRC. Maybe quality control problems ? I use to be a Ruger fan personally, untill I got my hands on my 2 Remingtons. Bottom line is finding a good load that will shoot. This monster has 20% more powder capacity than the.300 Win. 22-243AI vs 22 CHeetah vs 22 something else. You can purchase .300 win mag ammunition off the shelf at any sporting goods store in the lower 48 and you'll be able to find it at just about any general store in Alaska. Main thing to me was recoil. However, it’s a bit too much of a good thing. From what I’ve read seems like a lot of you out there have 300 Win Mags. Reading ballistic tables, the .300 Weatherby with 200 grain bullets may be the best elk CARTRIDGE though I think a .340 Weatherby with a 225 is as good or better. It does have a slightly longer neck by about .023, but the WSM's sharper shoulder and sharper neck/shoulder junction (vs the radius WBY junction) I would think more than make up for the length difference. It is an “improved” .300 H&H with full-length (2.825-inch) case, body taper removed to increase powder capacity, and the signature Weatherby “double-Venturi” shoulder. I dont shoot groups at close range as it defeats my purpose of a LR gun. vs. 300 WSM. The .300 Weatherby became the most popular cartridge … Another good reason to choose the WSM is the barrel will last a lot longer than the WBY or RUM and so will the brass. As far as quality problems, I've bought a few rem rifles (more than I'd care to admit in case my wife is reading this. But if they want to stop a magnum round, they will have to try harder than this. I have shot 3 shot groups at 800 yards of 3.5" and 4" with the 150g CT B-tip and 1.5" 3 shot group at 525 yards with the 200g Accubond. Mag. the Wby doesn't suffer accuracy problems because of extra headspace. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. Joined Jun 8, 2018 Messages 20. Peter Pan I love my remington,but if I had the cash I'd consider sako.Lately remington has been on a few peoples Dung list. was one of Roy Weatherby’s initial cartridges, developed in 1944. However, the.300 Ultra Mag also has a lot more recoil than the.300 Win Mag. I'm 18, 6'2 and 140 lbs. The 300 Wby will outshoot the Untramag any day of the week. I just checked again and they have added another 150 and 2 more 180s but the Wby still has a better selection as they load Hornady, Nosler and Barnes bullets. JavaScript is disabled. Guys and Gals, take a closer look at the 7 mm Weatherby, you won’t be disappointed . The case isbased off a .404 Jeffery Nitro Express by narrowing down the neck to fit a .308 (7.8mm) bullet. 3,153 Posts #10 • Feb 28, 2009. grits and gravy said: Get a 300 … Guys what do you think about Sendero against Sako in 300RUM? Go. Mag., 350 Rem. I completely disagree with the .300 weatherby being better than the .300 RUM. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Factory loaded.30-378 Weatherby Magnum ammunition has a 150–200 ft/s (46–61 m/s) velocity advantage over the.300 RUM cartridge with any given bullet weight. Competitive shooters have also praised its accuracy and performance, using it to … .300 Weatherby ammunition is prohibitively expensive and .300 ultra mag ammunition is not widely available. To avoid a Ford vs Chevy debate, let’s stipulate that the rifle I have selected is available in both chamberings. I am just as happy with a 165-180 in my '06 or a 210-225 in my .338. The Wby has to have the extra headspace because of the high pressures generated. They say it's SAAMI verified. Not with the Weatherby. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. The UM bullets are harder to find than the Wby to date. I can sit down at the bench and shoot 20 rounds in an orderly fasion with no more than a sweatshirt with no problem. I'm currently looking at either the Remington 700 SPS, .300 Ultra Mag; or the Weatherby Vanguard, .300 Weatherby Magnum. If the Ultra mag was a great round we'd see it in use at the 1000 yard meets. Nothing shoots better in my house than these Remingtons. Based on the .300 H&H case blown out to maximum capacity, the .300 Weatherby Magnum was introduced by Roy Weatherby in 1944. Its very consistent. Barrel life is short, and being aggressively overbore, the RUM can be finicky about accuracy. I would go with the 300 RUM, I personally have one and I love it. You must log in or register to reply here. Bullet Cost - Why is this so much a wild hair? However, .300 Weatherby shooters wonder what took Remington so long to catch up as the RUM duplicates the California hot-rod which appeared 45 years earlier. The last I looked the only shells you could get were Remington brand (a 150, and 2x 180s Core Lokt and now a Boat tail (match). I did my research on the 300 RUM before I went out and bought one. You are using an out of date browser. My uncle has several Rem 700's in 30-06 and 300 Win Mags. Great knockdown power! vs. 300 Ultra Mag. Not even a muzzle brake. The Weatherby is 100 to 200 fps faster than the Win Mag depending on load and bullet selection but the newer Win Mag is certainly adequate for longer shots. Thanks for … 300 SAUM and its felt recoil is considerably less than that of the 300 win mag or 300 weatherby mag, and is matches closely to the trajectory of the 300 win mag. I would go with the .300 win mag. ...If you bed the action , the first 2 inches after the locking lug and put a 2inch bed 2 inches down from the for end...The rifle will shoot 3/8ths at a 100, 2 shots...Factory 150gr. I have a 300 Wby, and a friend of mine has a 300 Ultramag while yet another friend has a 300 Win mag. Long live the 300 RUM.With out muzzel brake recoil is a nightmear!!! My father, Ol’ Grumpy Pants, absolutely loves this cartridge, and he has taken it around the world for all sorts of game. I puchased a Rem. When doing load work for my … Roy Weatherby already had experience with other custom cartridges such as his own .270 Weatherby Magnum when he created the .300 Weatherby. This results in a flatter trajectory, more resistance to wind drift, and more retained energy at longer range. .300 Remington Ultra Mag The.300 Remington Ultra Mag is loosely based on a blown out and necked down.404 Jeffery case with a 30 degree shoulder. However, the Wby rifles are of higher quality than the Remingtons. In my opinion though, the RUM is on top of the Weatherby. So based on my experience, with the right powder a WSM can push the heavier bullets quite well. That’s .300 Win mag power with less powder and less recoil! Introduced in 1944, this is the all-around cartridge for the big game hunter. However, the.30-378 Weatherby Magnum is considered the most overbore production sporting cartridge available and is not considered as efficient as the.300 RUM cartridge. Prev. In … The 2nd concern was accuracy. It may not display this or other websites correctly. If you go from the centerline of the radius, you will see a neck closer to .38". Mills – September 17, 2017. I have done it in person at the range. The 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum is a beast; it is the .300 Weatherby Magnum—requiring a magnum-length action—necked down to hold 6.5mm bullets, replete with the double radius shoulder that Weatherby is famous for. Only thing I did was clean the barrel real good and give it a trigger job down to 2lbs and thats that. This case is used for the 257, 270, and 7mm wby mags. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.85" Width: 0.534" Average FPS: 3066 Average Energy: 3610 Average Gr: 173 Recoil: 2.64 Power Rank: 5.3 of 20 The .300 Remington Ultra Magnum was designed in 1999 by Remington Arms Company. The best group I ever shot at 300 yards was 1 1/2". The bottom line is that Wby has a guarantee on accuracy which tells you what you need to know. I'm looking for some opinions from guys who are already shooting these rigs, as to which one might be preferred. Weth...Hell on deer! On the other side a .300 magnum does not come close to being a … I should probably shoot the Ultramag at longer ranges but if it can't shoot 1-1/2" at 100 yards its not gonna do it at 300 yds. Bullet Cost - Why is this so much a wild hair? I have a 300 Wby, and a friend of mine has a 300 Ultramag while yet another friend has a 300 Win mag. Many reloaders believe the double radius also minimizes brass flow and case stretch, resulting in longer case life. The .30/06 vs. the .300 Winchester Magnum. The UM needs a better bullet for a real comparison. Nosler partitions and easily reaches 3000 fps. Of the mark a little, but! The case drawing I am looking at on Ammoguide shows the WBY with a 20* shoulder. There may be better rounds for the UM coming out that will tighten up the race, But right now the Wby is years ahead of the UM. Brass has a higher specific gravity or is denser than water. Kid, I've seen three different 700BDL's shoot under 3/4MOA at 300 yards with factory 180gr Partitions. JavaScript is disabled. Who needs a Weatherby when you can have a .300 RUM? I have a Remington LSS .300 RUM and it will outshoot your weatherby as you described. So why does Wby do it and Remington doesn't. Not meant to start a ****ing match here, but your knocking the RUM, I'm knocking the Weatherby. First Prev 2 of 3 Go to page. Plus, it kicks like a demoniac mule, and … I agree that the 1-1/2" gaurantee is a joke because the Wby's can do that anyday. We all go out to shoot at a range north of Byers Colorado which goes all the way out to 1000 yards. The RUM neck is close to the WBY in length but has a sharper 30* shoulder. The more experienced western hunters I talked to the more 300WBY rose to the top. For decades Remington was satisfied with its 6.5mm Rem. Classic in 300Wth. My .308 Norma with a 180-200 may be the … The .300 Wby. The 300 Weatherby Magnum had the flattest trajectory, longest range and the greatest killing power of any 300 magnum on the market until the 30-378 Weatherby Magnum came along. 300 Win Mag Vs 300 Weatherby Vs 300 Ultra Mag And 300 Win Mag Vs 6 5 Creedmoor 1000 Yards BEST BUY AND CHEAP PRICES HERE. Find 300 Weatherby Mag Ammo for sale, in-stock and ready to ship at Ammo Freedom. Remington produced the 300 Win Mag in 1999 and this is also the first cartridge of the 30-caliber 22-243AI vs 22 CHeetah vs 22 something else. Both are celebrated by hunters worldwide, but which one of these classic .30-caliber cartridges will come out on top That angle is 47 degrees. Now the problem with the comparison was that I shoot Noslers and the UM was shooting Remington Core Lokts. The 7mm wby is based on the 270 wby (Roy Weaterby's first cartridge)which is a shortened and blown out 300 H&H magnum with weatherby's signiture double radius shoulder. 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